Friday, April 3, 2015

Updated All-Time Indoor Top 5 Mens Performances: Middle Distance/Distance




Posted by skwilli at 7:00 AM

16 comments:

  1. AnonymousApril 9, 2015 at 11:23 AM

    Paul Stemmer's 8:40.6 two mile on Feb 8, 1975 against Navy (flat 200m track), converts to an 8:03.0 3000m.

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  2. skwilliApril 9, 2015 at 11:43 AM

    I will send that along to the track office.

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  3. AnonymousApril 10, 2015 at 1:06 AM

    About conversions

    IAAF scoring
    8:34.2 = 7:55.7
    8:35.2 = 7:56.7
    8:39.8 = 8:00.9
    8:40.6 = 8:01.7

    Proportional conversion
    8:34.2 = 7:55.8
    8:35.2 = 7:56.8
    8:39.8 = 8:01.0
    8:40.6 = 8:01.8

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  4. skwilliApril 10, 2015 at 11:51 AM

    I am not aware that the IAAF Tables are used for conversions in this way? The track office is aware and may add the mark to the converted list. The conversion method used would be the same as the one used for the others on the list. I suppose they won't be in a hurry about it, but are certainly interested in the submission. Stem memories always make Coach smile, or at least tell another story...

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  5. skwilliApril 10, 2015 at 8:47 PM

    The track office may prefer to keep things the way they are. Perhaps another list of unconverted 2-mile times can be made. Heck, I'd post it when someone creates it. . Conversions suck anyway. Mathematical busy work for OCD types. I'm way too busy posting incorrect facts, after all.

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  6. AnonymousApril 11, 2015 at 12:17 AM

    Here's your two mile list (indoors).

    IAAF scoring
    8:34.2 = 7:55.7 Greg Fredericks, Philadelphia, 1972
    8:35.2 = 7:56.7 Robert Snyder, Delaware, 1979
    8:39.8 = 8:00.9 George Malley, CYO 1977
    8:40.6 = 8:01.7 Paul Stemmer, vs Navy 1975
    8:43.8 = 8:07.9 Charlie Maguire, IC4A, 1974

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  7. AnonymousApril 11, 2015 at 12:33 AM

    Two mile list (amended)

    IAAF scoring
    8:34.2 = 7:55.7 Greg Fredericks, Philadelphia, 1972
    8:35.2 = 7:56.7 Robert Snyder, Delaware, 1979
    8:39.8 = 8:00.9 George Malley, CYO 1977
    8:40.6 = 8:01.7 Paul Stemmer, vs Navy 1975
    8:40.94 = 8:02.0 John Zishka, NCAA 1981
    8:43.8 = 8:07.9 Charlie Maguire, IC4A, 1974

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  8. AnonymousApril 11, 2015 at 7:28 AM

    Wasn't Ziska at Oregon by 1981? Unsure if that one counts on the PSU list. Maybe the Alumni list?

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  9. skwilliApril 11, 2015 at 7:44 AM

    This points out the remarkable run by Robby Creese this year:

    7:50.36 3000M
    (8:26.8) (2 Mile IAAF conversion)
    Puts him in rare territory.

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  10. skwilliApril 11, 2015 at 7:48 AM

    Not 7:58 2-Mile territory, mind you, but rare territory none-the-less.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_miles

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  11. AnonymousApril 11, 2015 at 9:11 AM

    Zishka was a Freshman in 1981.

    IAAF scoring tables (latest indoor publication, I used their outdoor book for previous conversions) puts Creese's 3000m at 8:29.8 for two miles.

    8:29.8 = 7:50.3 RC
    8:34.2 = 7:54.4 GF
    8:35.2 = 7:55.3 RS
    8:39.8 = 7:59.6 GM
    8:40.6 = 8:00.4 PS
    8:40.9 = 8:00.7 JZ
    8:43.8 = 8:03.3 CM


    IAAF_indoor_scoring

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  12. AnonymousApril 11, 2015 at 11:54 AM

    Track information

    8:29.8 = 7:50.3 RC 300m banked synthetic
    8:34.2 = 7:54.4 GF 160y banked board
    8:35.2 = 7:55.3 RS 220y flat synthetic
    8:39.8 = 7:59.6 GM 160y banked board
    8:40.6 = 8:00.4 PS 220y flat synthetic
    8:40.9 = 8:00.7 JZ 160y banked lumberyard
    8:43.8 = 8:03.3 CM 220y flat synthetic

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  13. AnonymousApril 11, 2015 at 6:21 PM

    Final edit.

    2 mile list IAAF scoring
    8:34.2 = 7:54.4 Greg Fredericks, Philadelphia, 1972 (160y banked board)
    8:35.2 = 7:55.3 Robert Snyder, Delaware, 1979 (220y flat)
    8:39.8 = 7:59.6 George Malley, CYO 1977 (160y banked board)
    8:40.6 = 8:00.4 Paul Stemmer, vs Navy 1975 (220y flat)
    8:40.94 = 8:00.7 John Zishka, NCAA 1981 (160y banked lumberyard)
    8:43.8 = 8:03.3 Charlie Maguire, IC4A, 1974 (220y flat)


    IAAF scoring combined 3000m/2 mile
    7:50.36 = 8:29.8 Robbie Creese, 2015 Seattle (300m banked)
    7:54.4 = 8:34.2 Greg Fredericks, 1972 Philadelphia, (160y banked board)
    7:54.52 = 8:34.3 Sam Masters, 2013 Seattle (300m banked)
    7:55.3 = 8:35.2 Robert Snyder, 1979 Delaware, (220y flat)
    7:59.6 = 8:39.8 George Malley, 1977 CYO (160y banked board)
    8:00.4 = 8:40.6 Paul Stemmer, 1975 vs Navy (220y flat)
    8:00.78 = 8:41.0 Ken Frazier, 1989 Florida
    8:00.7 = 8:40.94 John Zishka, 1981 NCAA (160y banked lumberyard)
    8:03.3 = 8:43.8 Charlie Maguire, 1974 IC4A, (220y flat)
    8:04.21 = 8:44.8 Matt Fischer, 2014 PSU National (200m banked)

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  14. skwilliApril 12, 2015 at 7:27 AM

    Excellent work.

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  15. skwilliApril 12, 2015 at 11:51 AM

    At some point, someone should do the same for the 3 Mile/5000M. Although I'm not putting any pressure on anyone to do it!

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  16. AnonymousApril 16, 2015 at 12:50 PM

    I think Coach did all of those conversions back in the day. He clearly didn't have as much time on his hands as the IAAF cognoscenti in our midst. I will attest to the lumber yard "track" in Detroit - it had more dead spots than firm footing. Lane 1 was pretty much sawdust. LTM

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