Saturday, August 3, 2013

"Official" Penn State Track Alumni Records: Distance Edition

This was the most problematic section to put together because of many factors, competitiveness being the most important among them!  I have included 2 entries in some of the events, just because I want to. Please alert us with any corrections or clarifications!

3000 Meters: 7:50.40, Alan Scharsu '82 .. . . 1985

3000 M Steeplechase: 8:21.72,  (Stockholm) 1978 (American Record)

5000 Meters:  1) 13:31.61, James Carney,  2008
 2) 13:34.0, Alan Scharsu '82 . 1985

10,000 Meters: 1)   27:43.64, James Carney, 2007
 2) 28:03.14, Greg Fredericks '72 ..... (US Olympic Trials) 1980

1/2 Marathon: 1) 1:01.43 (Phila.) 1982 (American Record)
2) 1:02:21, James Carney 2008

 Marathon: 2:12:23, James Carney,  (Houston Olympic Trials) 2012

James Carney.

19 comments:

  1. 2012 Olympic Marathon Trials

    http://www.usatf.org/events/2012/OlympicTrials-Marathon/results/Men.asp

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  2. Thanks for the link. I'll update the time.

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    1. http://arrs.net/AllTime/AllTime.htm

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  3. what about the non-metric distances (e.g., mile, 3 mile, 6 mile)?

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  4. Things are tough enough already! But I'm all for it. Should we add non-IAAF distances too? Anyone can chime in with submissions. My fact-checkers have all been sacked.

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  5. 5000 13:31.62 James Carney. Stanford 2008
    8k 23:12 James Carney, Carmel 2011
    10000 27:43.64 James Carney, Stanford 2007
    12k 35:50 James Carney, Spokane 2011
    15k 43:31 James Carney, Pensacola 2009
    10 miles 48:03 James Carney, St Paul 2007
    20k 59:11 James Carney, New Haven 2008
    HM 1:02:21 James Carney, Houston 2008
    Marathon 2:12:23 James Carney, Houston 2012

    Not bad for someone who spent less than a year in Happy Valley

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  6. I will be adding the 10 Mile, and other distances shortly. Thanks for the exact 5000 time. James didn't know it at first. I love my fact checkers.

    And 1 year at PSU is more than enough to make one a Nittany Lion for Life!

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  7. 3000 7:56.0 Greg Fredericks, Berkeley 1979
    5000 13:37.6 Greg Fredericks, Eugene 1975

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  8. 3000 7:50.40 Alan Scharsu, Eugene 1985
    5000 13:34.0 Alan Scharsu, Walnut 1985
    12k 34:54 Alan Scharsu, Itasca 1985

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  9. 10 Miles 46:10 Greg Fredericks, Trevira Twosome, NY 1981
    10 miles 47:23 Greg Fredericks, Trevira Twosome, NY 1982
    10 Miles 47:37 Greg Fredericks, Arts Festival, State College, 1977

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  10. Those 10 mile times aren't legit. Trevira was over 400m short. Where did you get that Arts Festival time? Prehaps a typo 49:37?

    History of the 10 mile AR
    http://arrs.net/RecProg/RP_USAR.htm

    Alltime USA 10 mile.
    http://arrs.net/AllTime/AL_R10M2.htm

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  11. Arts Festival time is from a Pa. Mirror story by Dennis Gildea. Includes a quote from Coach Groves that GF was one of 10 guys in the country who could run that course that fast.

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  12. Anyone who visits here for accurate reporting should be shot on sight! Supposedly top men are on that, too. Don't hold your breath! LTM

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  13. The mirth is required. And occasionally accurate info finds its way onto this blog. Reliable fact checkers are hard to come by! Thanks for keeping my feet to the fire.

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  14. http://www.nvrun.com/results/af-mirror77.pdf

    The 47:37 does have a factual basis – the time reported in the Mirror in 1977 on a “changed” (ahem) course. Given Greg’s history on the course, and the fact that Greg has never been an aggressive front runner, it would be difficult to accept the validity of the 47:37 time on a hilly 10 miler that is known to be about 70-80s slow. That 47:37 would be somewhere equal to a 46:30 mark on a flat course, which if you believe IAAF’s scoring tables, is the equivalent to 13:24/28:06 times on the track. Greg PR’s (13:34/28:03) were both set in races in which he was towed.

    Greg’s Arts Festival history.
    1976 51:44
    1977 47:37
    1978 50:35
    1979 50:09
    1981 50:23
    1982 50:30

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  15. http://www.nvrun.com/results/af-mirror77.pdf

    The 47:37 does have a factual basis – the time reported in the Mirror in 1977 on a “changed” (ahem) course. Given Greg’s history on the course, and the fact that Greg has never been an aggressive front runner, it would be difficult to accept the validity of the 47:37 time on a hilly 10 miler that is known to be about 70-80s slow. That 47:37 would be somewhere equal to a 46:30 mark on a flat course, which if you believe IAAF’s scoring tables, is the equivalent to 13:24/28:06 times on the track. Greg PR’s (13:34/28:03) were both set in races in which he was towed.

    Greg’s Arts Festival history.
    1976 51:44
    1977 47:37
    1978 50:35
    1979 50:09
    1981 50:23
    1982 50:30

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  16. Here is a link to the PA Mirror story on the 1977 arts festival race.

    http://nvrun.com/results/af-mirror77.pdf

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  17. All true, but someone should work out a correlation coefficient on Greg's times vs those of other usual suspects, e.g., on the truly brutal 1976 course he beat Charlie by 1:38, and on the merely difficult 1977 course he beat him by 2:42. A variable not considered but not improbable is that Charlie said something to really piss him off in 1977.

    Also, someone should check to see if this topic set a record for comments on this blog.

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  18. Yes, this is officially the most comments to a blog post. (With this comment! hee hee hee)

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